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> Link To The Last Stable Version Of Openx (2.8.1)
dacumen
post Mar 18 2010, 11:17 PM
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It's sad that it has to come to this, but I keep getting requests to forward a link to the last stable (which really means WORKING) version of OpenX. Here it is for anybody who needs it.

http://download.openx.org/openx-2.8.1.zip

Do not, under any circumstances, install a version later than the one found at this location. Later versions DO NOT WORK!

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post Mar 19 2010, 03:47 PM
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Well, to be fair, you could argue that there's lots of things that don't work in 2.8.1 as well! I think it depends on what your needs are with regards to "working"...

Any particular issues you're having with versions > OpenX 2.8.1?

Just curious...

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post Mar 20 2010, 04:26 PM
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QUOTE (The Guru @ Mar 19 2010, 04:47 PM) *
Well, to be fair, you could argue that there's lots of things that don't work in 2.8.1 as well! I think it depends on what your needs are with regards to "working"...

Any particular issues you're having with versions > OpenX 2.8.1?

Just curious...

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OpenX has one mission: to serve ads. In order for OpenX to be considered "functional" it must deliver contract ads according to contract conditions (i.e.: a campaign contracted to deliver 5,000 impressions in three days should deliver 5000 impressions in three days, give or take a few for good measure).

Delivering contract campaigns correctly is a NO-FAIL mission! If OpenX is not able to serve contract campaigns according to contract conditions, then it DOES NOT WORK!!! ...period, bottom line, end of discussion.

OpenX has not been able to deliver a contract campaign according to contracted conditions since version 2.8.1. The MPE has been hobbled by mission-critical bugs that render it completely useless since that release. Everybody on this board who's been PAYING ATTENTION for the last nine months knows that. I'm surprised that you do not.

Please explain to me what functions versions greater than 2.8.1 have that are MORE IMPORTANT THAN BEING ABLE TO SERVE ADS? ...just curious!

I mean seriously Guru, that's like saying "Toyota Corollas after the 2008 model year don't stop when you press the break pedal, but they have so many other improvements that "to be fair," it's really a wash!" WTF?
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post Mar 20 2010, 06:54 PM
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QUOTE (dacumen @ Mar 20 2010, 05:26 PM) *
OpenX has not been able to deliver a contract campaign according to contracted conditions since version 2.8.1. The MPE has been hobbled by mission-critical bugs that render it completely useless since that release. Everybody on this board who's been PAYING ATTENTION for the last nine months knows that. I'm surprised that you do not.

Oh, I know that, certainly. Although, again, to be fair, 2.8.1 isn't perfect either - how well delivery of contract campaigns works depends on your particular setup and traffic patterns. Mileage has always varied with contract campaigns in OpenX - for some users, it seems to do the job, for others, it's a complete disaster. Obviously, for you, it's a complete disaster...

It's a shame that the major fixes I was working on for contract campaigns were never completed when OpenX let me go. I was hoping that someone there would have picked up on the work, and pushed it forward, and fixed the issues the way I was intending, but instead it seems the decision was made to change some of the way priorities are calculated for performance reasons, which have made things worse in some cases.

I totally understand your frustration, though. Since the move of HQ to LA, the OpenX team has really gone downhill in terms of actually supporting the open source community, and have, for all intents and purposes, given up on anyone that isn't paying them for a service. The open source community, essentially, doesn't seem to matter to OpenX any more.

It's a shame, because the open source community was the core of the OpenX product. Maybe OpenX 3.0 will solve everything when it's released, but as I understand it, this is still a long way off, and I'm really not sure how much of the community will be around to care by the time it does come out....

PS. I have plenty of clients that don't need or use contract campaigns, hence, for some users, upgrading beyond 2.8.1 is no issue at all...

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post Mar 20 2010, 08:03 PM
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QUOTE (The Guru @ Mar 20 2010, 07:54 PM) *
It's a shame, because the open source community was the core of the OpenX product. Maybe OpenX 3.0 will solve everything when it's released, but as I understand it, this is still a long way off, and I'm really not sure how much of the community will be around to care by the time it does come out.


The really sad thing is there's a huge market opportunity here that these idiots at OpenX are letting fly away. I would GLADLY pay for a version of OpenX that works! My company wanted to pay HANDSOMELY for a nice little intrasite ad server they could host themselves that had a good support community and was stable...and we're talking about a hundred plus billion dollar company!

I know it sounds harsh, but I don't think it's out of line to say that the OpenX team has completely lost their marbles and given up on this market, their users, and every opportunity they spent the last half dozen years cultivating. I haven't seen this level if incompetence since before the crash! It's serious and it's sad!

Have you ever considered taking what you know about the OpenX ad server and starting another company? This market is SCREAMING for a reliable, paid, standalone alternative to OpenX. Somebody's got to answer the call before hackers find a way to exploit those of us who refuse to upgrade beyond 2.8.1.

I'm sure 2.8.1 does have flaws, BUT IT WORKS!!! For me, that's the only thing that matters. If I wanted a remnant banner ad swapper, I'd still be using and refining the ad server I built myself back in 2004 or I'd use the banner ad engines built into almost every CMS on the market today. I need what OpenX promises (and delivered until 2.8.1). Everything else is just frosting.
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post Mar 21 2010, 07:46 AM
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QUOTE (dacumen @ Mar 20 2010, 09:03 PM) *
Have you ever considered taking what you know about the OpenX ad server and starting another company? This market is SCREAMING for a reliable, paid, standalone alternative to OpenX.

Yes, but unfortunately, it's not for me at this point in time. The OpenX Tips site & consulting is working for me for now, along with my other interests, so...

There are other paid alternatives to OpenX Enterprise (paid for) Hosted, of course! (e.g. DFP)

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post Mar 26 2010, 07:18 PM
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QUOTE (The Guru @ Mar 21 2010, 08:46 AM) *
QUOTE (dacumen @ Mar 20 2010, 09:03 PM) *
Have you ever considered taking what you know about the OpenX ad server and starting another company? This market is SCREAMING for a reliable, paid, standalone alternative to OpenX.

There are other paid alternatives to OpenX Enterprise (paid for) Hosted, of course! (e.g. DFP)

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Yes I know, but for me (and the company I work for) hosted is simply not an option.
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